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I was calculated the return to player (RTP) using the hypergeometric distribution formula as the Wizard did for Bingo. I used the paytables for two bookmakers offering the game, William Hill & Lotto Instant Win. For Lotto Instant Win I got an RTP of 84% and for William Hill 102% !
Where am I going wrong with my calculation?
William Hill paytable: luckyballs dot rs
LIW paytabe: lottery dot live
My spreadsheet: ibb dot co/fQXyTK
I get a similar number through simulation.
Also, this doesn't take into account the 'clover bonus' (two of the numbers from 6 to 35 are selected somehow; if that number of the draw (e.g. the 10th and 22nd, or the 19th and 34th) is one of your numbers, the payouts double, and if both of them are, the payout triples), or the 'bonus game' with all payouts doubled, or the progressive jackpot.
Something about this doesn't pass the smell test. I would like to see the game as it is actually played.
When I interpret payout=1 as a push, then I calculate a net positive return of 0.019353, in agreement with ThatDonGuy.
I am wondering if you can look at it and confirm that the Bookmaker is betting at 101.935% RTP. This is a live operating bookmaker's site. Are they betting at a loss?
I put the LIW paytable through an own built simulator and the RTP was up to 98%. I tried to figure out the variance between the Excel Spreadsheet and the simulator. What I did was apply Standard Deviation to the spreadsheet and got very close to my simulator RTP.
Is it possible to get different results from a spreadsheet and a simulaor and if so, were I right in applying SD or am I barking up the wrong tree?
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Can someone please post the pay table or a link to where it can be found?
6/48, how many balls does it take to match all 6 numbers?
Number of balls to match 6 numbers: Payout
6:10000
7:7500
8:5000
9:2500
10:1000
11:500
12:300
13:200
14:150
15:100
16:90
17:80
18:70
19:60
20:50
21:40
22:30
23:25
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25:1526:10
27:9
28:8
29:7
30:6
31:5
32:4
33:3
34:2
35:1
Can someone please post the pay table or a link to where it can be found?
Here
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Balls | Pays | Density | Return |
---|---|---|---|
6 | 10000 | 0.00000008 | 0.00081490 |
7 | 7500 | 0.00000049 | 0.00366703 |
8 | 5000 | 0.00000171 | 0.00855640 |
9 | 2500 | 0.00000456 | 0.01140854 |
10 | 1000 | 0.00001027 | 0.01026768 |
11 | 500 | 0.00002054 | 0.01026768 |
12 | 300 | 0.00003765 | 0.01129445 |
13 | 200 | 0.00006454 | 0.01290794 |
14 | 150 | 0.00010488 | 0.01573156 |
15 | 100 | 0.00016314 | 0.01631421 |
16 | 90 | 0.00024471 | 0.02202418 |
17 | 80 | 0.00035595 | 0.02847571 |
18 | 70 | 0.00050426 | 0.03529801 |
19 | 60 | 0.00069820 | 0.04189215 |
20 | 50 | 0.00094756 | 0.04737802 |
21 | 40 | 0.00126341 | 0.05053656 |
22 | 30 | 0.00165823 | 0.04974693 |
23 | 25 | 0.00214595 | 0.05364865 |
24 | 20 | 0.00274204 | 0.05484084 |
25 | 15 | 0.00346363 | 0.05195448 |
26 | 10 | 0.00432954 | 0.04329540 |
27 | 9 | 0.00536038 | 0.04824344 |
28 | 8 | 0.00657865 | 0.05262921 |
29 | 7 | 0.00800879 | 0.05606155 |
30 | 6 | 0.00967729 | 0.05806375 |
31 | 5 | 0.01161275 | 0.05806375 |
32 | 4 | 0.01384597 | 0.05538388 |
33 | 3 | 0.01641004 | 0.04923012 |
34 | 2 | 0.01934040 | 0.03868081 |
35 | 1 | 0.02267496 | 0.02267496 |
36 to 48 | 0 | 0.86772942 | 0.00000000 |
Total | 1.00000000 | 1.01935279 |
Either this game is indeed paying 101.95%, not including the Clover Bonus, whatever that is, or it is gaffed. Either way, I will dig deeper.
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Anyone feel free to PM if you want to tell me anything confidentially.
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I'm off to Burning Man on Saturday and won't have time to do any testing for fairness of the game until my return and even then I'll probably be swamped catching up. Meanwhile, I will post the page, but won't draw a lot of attention to the high return. Leave that to the astute players willing to read carefully.
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I just finished a first draft of my new page on Lucky 6 35-48.
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I seem to remember that I calculated a similar value (134.6%) for the return with bonuses.
In situations like this, I try to imagine/recreate the error that someone might have made when doing the math analysis that underlies the payout table. So far, I can't figure out any math error that would explain this situation.